Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:04 am Post subject: If Angelus got a brain-chip would he change over time?
If Angelus got a chip in his head like Spike did would he become less evil over time like Spike or change at all from the regular Angelus? If so, in what way? I look forward to hearing your opinions on this matter of Angelus-chipage!
I'd say yes. Spike was pretty evil when he first came into the picture, but eventually he had to give in to the fact that he wouldn't be able to survive if he was evil with the chip. The same would probably happen with Angelus. _________________ Out. For. A. Walk... Bitch.
So do you think Angelus would become pretty similar in personality to Angel or do you think he'd still be pretty Angelus-esque except with the helping of the helpless?
I don't believe Angelus would change at all. I believe Spike was unique as a vampire in that he had the capacity to love even without the chip. He loved Drusilla. Angelus was just pure, nasty evil and lacked the capacity to love in my opinion.
That coming from the BAngle guy that I am. _________________
Even if he discovered like Spike did that he could only hurt demons? Say he didn't become less evil, do you think he might change in personality at all from how he is to some other direction besides good? How do you think he'd get his kicks if he couldn't hurt and torture people which is one of his favorite things to do? Thanks for the responses fellow Scoobies! Or is it rather Angel's Avengers or Big Bads?
Angelus would probably still be Angelus. Spike wasn't ever really nice until he actually got a soul. I feel like Angelus might actually make demons do the hurting for him, like henchmen. He was too evil to just convert totally to the Scooby side. _________________ Out. For. A. Walk... Bitch.
oooh nice one.
its hard to know, i guess it comes down to the question of who is the more evil: spike or angelus.
I tend to think angelus was more evil, simply because he had been at it for longer.
i think spike's love for drusilla was greater than angelus' love for darla.
also, evil spike had tea and marshmellows and a heart2heart with joyce while totally evil, and its hard to imagine angelus doing same.
i think spike was the better man. if angelus had a chip instead of a soul i really dont imagine him falling in with the humans and getting domesticated. i imagine him terrorising other demons with brute strength, and standing over them and forcing them to do his bidding. Spike could have been chips ahoy and made the switch to butcher blood but stayed evil. but he didn't. so yeah, pass the mountain dew. _________________ mmm
I like Cardy's point, (as I so often do), that Spike wasn't good when he had the chip, just opportunistic. He showed again and again that he would kill if he just could.
But no, I don't think having a chip would cause Angelus to "soften". Probably just make him meaner. Like an impotent sex offender.
Hmm, I wonder if Spike's chip was a metaphor for impotent sex offenders. Well, it is now, at least to me. _________________
Hmm, I wonder if Spike's chip was a metaphor for impotent sex offenders. Well, it is now, at least to me.
Of course it is. Don't you remember the Spike and Willow scene? (Damn, can't remember the episode, but it's the one where they're sitting on the bed, shortly after Spike escaped the Initiative). _________________ Listening to you I get the music
Gazing at you I get the heat
Following you I climb the mountain
I get excitement at your feet!
Spike wasn't good when he had the chip, just opportunistic. He showed again and again that he would kill if he just could.
Not in Crush.
Also when they were both evil, Angelus tried to end the world while Spike teamed up with Buffy to save it.
I don't think Angelus would have changed, I think he was cunning enough to find other ways to get his evil deeds done.
Spike was never really that nice until he got a soul, it's true. But just because he couldn't hurt people didn't mean he had to save them, he didn't have to help, he didnt have to comfort, he didn't have to care for Dawn, he didn't have to make friends but he did. Helping, comforting, caring and making friends are not really evil deeds, and I just can't see Angelus doing them no matter how incapacitated he is.
I think Beagle's right that it would probably make him meaner. I remember it being said, by Giles I think, that Angelus hated anything that made him feel more human, well a chip would be one of those things.
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