Heroes, Volume 3: Villains SPOILERS

Wynter · Heroes, Volume 3: Villains **SPOILERS**

So...who watched the double-bill premiere and totally freaked out!?

BepperGirl

Me!

And I totally loved the Francis Capra and Kristen Bell scene because they played my OTP on Veronica Mars.

Wynter

Huh, really? I had no idea! That's...random.

Other thoughts on the episode, beware rambling:

I absolutely love Peter, he's one of my favourite characters, but Future!Peter REALLY annoys me! He's become hardened, darker and a bit of an arse, and I dislike it. I can't believe he put our Peter in the body of a crazy "level 5" villain, this can only end badly.

Ando had powers in the future!! And killed Hiro! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I absolutely adore their friendship, so to think of them becoming enemies is really upsetting. And to think of one actually killing the other? Say it ain't so! I'm glad Hiro told Ando about it, and didn't hide it, because I'm sure that would've made the situation worse. Hopefully the two can maybe now work on making sure that what Hiro saw, DOESN'T happen.

Sylar can heal now! Crap. Although, was anyone else MAJORLY intrigued by what he said about Claire being "special"? The scene where he was in the house was insanely creepy, and so well-done. I wonder what's in-store for him next, especially since he's been caught again. I can't help but think of how that went last time.

Mohinder is a noob, he should've known better than to inject himself with that serum. And now he's apparently...flaking? Ew.

What the hell happened to Nikki?! That's what I want to know!!! And Micah, and Monica. I'm not impressed with the lack of answers on that part.

YAY for Nathan being alive! That makes me so beyond happy Very Happy

Although, what the hell is with him seeing Linderman? Colour me so confused.

And oooh, so Angela dreams of the future? It's kinda cool that that's where Peter got that power from originally. I wonder what her dream meant, because Adam was definitely in it, and I thought he was forever stuck in a grave with Mr. Nakamura :-/

Matt is in Africa? Shit! Although it's cool that he met someone else who also has a gift...and what is this new sign we've started seeing everywhere?

AND OH! The formula!!! Who has the other half? And what do you get if you put it together?! It's all so enigmatic and intriguing.

Man, I've missed this show.

TwoToGo-Grave

Oh, I like the premiere a ton too. Here are a few thoughts-

As far as Nikki goes, could that have been Jessica (maybe she didn't die, after all as a kid). It'd be very intriguing, for sure.

Yes, Monhinder is a noob. First he joins the dark side (the Company) last year, and now this? What is he thinking? I'm concerned that they're going to ruin his character.

Yay for the death of Toby the Company Elf!!!! He was an annoying 'big bad' (and I use sarcastic quote marks) and having the most pimp big bad on television kill him and reclaim that role on Heroes seems...fitting.

So, yeah, see Sylar is great, as he is the nuts and is the best villain that TV has ever had (would that be too big a stretch?).

I like that Peter will be hardened in the future, but I want to see him in the present. This Weevil Petrelli-ness reeks of what they did last year with the memory loss-Peter's so powerful that the makers just don't know what to do with him or how to incorporate him well, so he's got some b.s. story to take up time.

I do love seeing Francis Capra, though, and I should never complain at the seeing of him on screen. At least it will be interesting when Sylar goes after him with it really being Peter (Sylar had Capra's pic among those that he took from Claire's home).

The theme of 'villians' is awesome, and I can't wait to see how it plays out. And seeing Mr. Sark in the dream just goes and gives me unrealistic hopes that we'll see him again. After all, David Anders is the nuts.

Cristine Rose is just awesome and is an Emmy worthy actress. I sure hope that we get lots more from her this season. She's a cast member now, so we should. Great and interesting character, too.

The Matt story looks very intriguing, and I can't wait to see how it plays out.

And the theme of changing the future by trying to change the past (leaving bad consequences) is great. What an interesting topic to look into.

Overall, I'm holding high hopes for Heroes after the premiere.

NotFadeAway

I'll try to give a few thoughts...

-I'm concerned about the 'everyone can have powers' story. While it has potential, it could also be very easily screwed up.
-Sylar is the nuts. That is all.
-I love Kristen Bell. She should be in every scene. She is also the nuts.
-I was very happy that Molly didn't show up, and likely won't show up again. The same goes for Micah. Both of them are annoying at times.
-Giant wtf at Not-Nikki. This makes no sense. I just makes no sense.
-I agree about Weevil Peter. Peter's so powerful that he should be able to defeat anybody and stop any problem by himself, and the writers clearly don't know how to handle this.
-I'm also so intrigued by Claire's extra-specialness. What does that mean?
-Another giant wtf at Mama Petrelli's telling Sylar that he's her son. Did she drink crazy juice right before going into that room? That was just weird.
-Another giant wtf at Linderman. I mean, he's...kind of dead.

I'm sure that I could come up with plenty of other stuff, but it's late and I'm all tired and stuff. I hope my rambling makes sense.

Also, I loved the first two episodes and am very eager to see Chapter Three.

TwoToGo-Grave

Oh, the ending with Mama Petrelli telling Sylar that was just weird and a major wtf??? moment. And if Sylar was Claire's uncle, it sure would make the rape metaphor in the first episode that much more disturbing.

I sure am intrigued by the Hiro/Ando future storyline too, and wanted to add it since I didn't mention it before. I also am very concerned about the everybody having powers thing, but I honestly don't see them truly getting there (or I at least hope not). But giving us (and Hiro and Ando) the knowledge that they COULD become enemies in the future and having one having the potential to become a villain is awesome (are we sure that it was Ando who was the villain in the future, or is it that Hiro just assumed that Ando killing him meant that he was a villain?). That should be something good to see.

Ant4buffy

Great start to the new season - enjoyed all the Sylary parts.

Also - and i'm going to brag my ass off now - I said it was Peter that shot Nathan!!! Oh yes. Ok that bits done now.

Mama Petrelli being Sylar's mum really works out too. Great idea. I can still see it all ending up being the 5 years in the future episode that we saw in season 1. That would just be a great twist.

Wynter

Well done, Ant Razz

*pats you on the head*

I totally forgot about Angela saying she was Sylar's mum!!! :-O That was CRAZY. I wonder if she means literally, or if it's meant to be in some sort of a figurative way. I'm not entirely sure how that works, but I don't know if I believe that it's as easy and uncomplicated as Sylar being Peter and Nathan's half-brother. WEIRD!

From, Hiro's POV, it definitely looked as if Ando was the villain, especially since the two were arguing and Ando just out-and-out used his power against Hiro to kill him. But we don't know ANYTHING about the motives behind it, or what led to that point. Finding out will be interesting, to say the least, but I have to say, I have a hard time believing that Hiro somehow ended up being the villain.

New episode tonight!

Wynter

C&P my thoughts on yesterday's episode from another forum:

I loved yesterday's episode. First off, I totally adored Hiro and Ando and their entire antics to get the formula - "can I get popcorn?"/"no" XD Though I couldn't help but feel that Hiro disappearing in the middle of Ando's "we stick together" speech is an ominous sign of things to come Sad

I'm really nervous about their storyline, and what happens to lead up to apparently evil!Ando killing Hiro.

Daphne was good in those scenes aswell, I'm so intrigued by who it is she's working for. Ooh! I totally think that she's the girl in the paintings of Matt's future, the short, blonde hair seems to give that away. So supposedly, first they were going to get together and have a baby, and now she'll die in his arms? Poor Matt!!! Sad

The guy can never cut a break. Loved all of his stuff in the desert too, with the as-yet-unnamed painter. Though I'm not entirely sure what happened to him at the end, with the music and taking that weird drug stuff...

Angela Petrelli creeped me out and annoyed me this episode. The way she was babying Sylar at the beginning of the episode (and fed him that random woman!!! :-O), and then the fact that she just let him out, free into the world, considering everything he's done, seemed a bit stupid. I still don't know whether to believe her when she says she's his mum, or think that she's talking balls. It could go either way, to be honest!

That being said, I loved everything Sylar in this episode. He had a great dynamic with Noah, and seeing them snark at each other was so funny. Also loved his cop impersonation, and the way he came to the rescue at the end. Although, killing Jesse? Not so good. Feels like regression.

Nikki's really dead?! Noooo! Sad

Poor Micah, what's going to happen to him now? I can't help but think this'll be the last we see of him, if not for ever, then for a long while. Anyway, I liked the little moment between him and Tracy, and the revelation that she's a clone, even if I did think it was initially twins. Sounds interesting, anyway! And does that mean there might be more of her walking about? And what're the chances someone else might've been cloned too?

I love Peter and everything, but Future!Peter is just a pain in my ass. The numpty didn't think through the consequences of changing the past, and now he's running around trying to fix his mistakes, but it's not that simple. I know he said the future was messed up because of what Nathan revealed in the press conference, but I wonder how much further it'll be messed up now, because of what he did.

Speaking of, not enough Nathan in this episode ¬_¬ And I was also glad about the lack of Mohinder and Maya, he annoyed me last week! The idjit.

The scene with Claire and her mum was intense, but also kinda cool. Her mum is a bit of a badass! I'd love to see more interaction between the two of them, but I don't know how likely that is now, considering Claire left. What exactly does she think she's going to do?

Noah saying he was going to find Sylar's weakness at the end, and kill him, was an awesome reminder of how much of a badass he can be. Can't wait to see more of that story develop!

NotFadeAway

-Sylar and HRG together is the nuts. The two of them are just so outstanding in every way. I can't wait to see how this plays out.
-Claire's story is looking interesting. And the scenes with Bio-mom were awesome. And I just like seeing Hayden Panettiere period. Smile

-I missed seeing Kristen Bell show up this week. Hopefully we'll see a lot of her in the near future.
-Peter (and future Peter) is just stupid. That is all.
-Parkman's story is interesting, but weird.
-I love seeing The Haitian again. He's really awesome and Jimmy Jean-Louis does a great job.
-Mama Petrelli is so up to no good.
-I was so happy to not see Mohinder and Maya this week. And I'm happy that Noah Gray-Cabey was listed as a guest star and not a cast member this year.
-I thought the 'villains' that were released would be important to the season story, but...no. Sylar was the stone nuts in that scene though.

Wynter

Kristen Bell was only listed as a guest star in last week's episode too though, instead of a regular, so I don't know how likely it is we'll see much of her this season.

Seeing The Haitian was cool, I think practically everyone was happy he was back Very Happy

Wynter

So like...is no-one else watching this show anymore?

NotFadeAway

ildjarn

It's not being broadcast (yet) in NL, afaik. And I don't like watching movies or TV series on the computer.

Wynter

NotFadeAway

Ant4buffy

I saw it last night and to be honest I'm loving the new season but something is not quite right. I think its the fact that everyone can be brought back to life (apart from Adam now) and it doesn't have the scare factor anymore.
I do like the appearance of Mr Petrelli and the way he can literally take your powers.
I just don't know where they are sposed to go with this season - theres new special abilities being introduced all the time and its a shame that they don't get rid of others first - also does anyone else think that everytime we see a new ability it just makes you think "Oh well thats not as good as Sylars/Peters" and I find myself not remembering what actual powers Sylar and Peter have - for example - last week when Noah was asking Portal Boy to kill Sylar - why couldn't Sylar hear them? He stole that power from mechanic woman ages ago.

That was a rant - don't get me wrong - I'm enjoying this season and still love the programme but its confusing at times. What are others thinking?

BepperGirl

I.. am not really enjoying it. It's like they're just making up things as they go and that does not sit well with me.

And I'm totally pissed about Francis Capra's shitty deal and also that Adam's dead. Daphne's hot, the turtle is funny stuff, but I'm just not feeling the show. Not even sure HRG's worth it anymore. (He's my favourite always.)

Yet I keep watching. I think it's because my friend summerkins still gets satisfaction from it and we watch it on my computer since hers is acting up.

NotFadeAway

I agree with everyone else (both those not liking it and the one who is liking it.)
-I agree about Francis Capra's 'shitty deal.' I was so excited seeing him and Kristen Bell both on the show, but then Capra was killed quickly and Kristen Bell has barely shown up.
-I love HRG, Sylar, and the Haitian (who hasn't shown up nearly enough), and would love to see the three of them together. I can really imagine an all out fight between HRG and Sylar if the Haitian is nearby (blocking Sylar's ability.) That would be the nuts, and I would be disappointed if we don't get to see that.
-The Ando/Hiro stuff this week was just awesome. "One minute before Hiro gets hit" was so funny. I love seeing the two of them out and about on their own. The Hiro stuff last season was one of the lowlights of the season, but it's looking better this year (although Hiro and Ando are both sooooo dumb.)
-I'm not too found of Papa Patrelli. His powers just seem to be there to be 'bigger and better' than Sylar's, but he's nowhere near as good of a character. Sylar (in Season One, at least) was the quintessential boogeyman: someone who could show up anytime and rip your head off.
-In fact, I don't like the assortment of 'villains' this year at all. Maury was lame last year, Papa Patrelli is new and (I think) will be lame this year, and the fear guy is, while my favorite of the three, new. Oh, and there's the flamethrower dude, who's dumb. I would prefer to see some (good) villains from the past, but the only one they had (Kenzei) was killed immediately, which was terrible.
-The puppet guy was sooooo creepy, but he's a one and out villain, so that doesn't say much for the future of the season.
-I like this story with Claire, but I hate the fact that they've shown that she ends up bad. It would be heartbreaking to see her become evil.
-I agree that it seems like they're just making things up as they go. While that might be okay for now, it will be a huge problem when they get later and have no endgame. Actually, it's not even good for now.
-What's going on with Peter? It's like they have no idea how to use him. Last season they gave him amnesia and made him stupid (following Kensei and not, like, READING HIS MIND to find out if he was telling the truth.) This year they've stuck him in a Weevil, made him bad, put him in a coma, and took away his powers. There's not coherent arc there, but just random things happening. I don't like it at all.
-What's up with Mohinder? They made him evil, but Sendil Ramamurthey can't pull it off (at least not the way it's been written.) There hasn't been anything done to make this story make any kind of sense, and it seems that it's not going anywhere.
-I love Daphne, Matt, and the turtle. I hope very much that all three get more screen time this season.
-Christine Rose (Mama Petrelli) is perhaps the best actor on the show, and has one of the best characters, and they put her in a coma? I mean, that's just dumb. I wish that the show could just take a step back, take stock of their characters and the plot of the season, and go from there. Doing things 'just because', or just to fill up an episode is not good at all.

Sorry for writing so much, but I've given this show a lot of thought since Monday. I very much hope that it gets better, and I really think it can return to Season One standards if they have the right mentality. I've enjoyed the show this year a lot of the time, but a lot of it has also been less than stellar. I won't quit watching ever, but I really do hope it can get back to the quality of old.

insaneinthebasement

I've been watching, and I'm still liking it. Not as much as the other seasons, but it's early days yet.
I'm not so happy about Mr Petrelli's powers either, it's kind of like, oh, another one that can steal all the powers.
Season one Sylar was definitely the best villian, I agree with NFA, he was boogyman scary. In season two he just creeped me out and I thought he should have died at the end of s1, but now I find myself gunning for him and hoping he can turn good. So overall I like his evolution. Peter on the other hand, is bugging me more and more as the show goes on. Same with Mohinder, he seems to be going nowhere at the moment. And where the hell is all that goo coming from?
But I think it's good that Claire's gotten over the schoolgirl thing and is out fighting. I like the Haitian too, I think he should be in it more.
I thought it was a good teaser of the future where Sylar had a kid (the kid was called Noah right? Could Claire have been the mother??) and Daphne and Parkman were married. A little confusing, but knowing the show I think it will all start fall into place and make sense.
I think that's pretty much my thoughts on it all.
Oh no, Mrs Petrelli, I'd been wondering what her power was for ages and I thought it was a bit disappointing when it was revealed. Also, if Peter had absorbed hers as his first power, then why not his father's?

NotFadeAway

A couple of thoughts about that last post:
-Claire is definitely not the mother of Sylar's child in the future. This would have been said if it was so. Plus, it would be incest, which is so not the nuts.
-Peter wouldn't need to get the ability to absorb powers by touching. He absorbs them just by being around, so by the time he touches someone, he's already got their power.

insaneinthebasement

oh yeah, i didn't even click on that incest thing. oops, i'm so dumb sometimes.
but what i meant by peter's dad's power is that he actually takes the power away from others rather than just copying it.

NotFadeAway

insaneinthebasement

mmm, i guess we should just go along with the story.
although, just to make things really confusing, now that daddy petrelli has stolen peter's powers, he should be able to copy other peoples powers, so if he goes stealing more powers in the future, he should technically already have them by the time he steals them.

oh i think i confused myself just by writing that.

Ant4buffy

Whoops I didn't mean to start a debate on the goodness of Heroes. Hehe. Nah, I'm glad people are agreeing and it isn't just me thats thought that they are being random with the plots.
Heres hoping it'll get better.

NotFadeAway

TwoToGo-Grave

It seems oddly reminiscent of Alias in seasons three and up with their utter lack of a plan on what to do. I sure hope I'm wrong and that they have a plan that will make all this make sense and be interesting, but I'm not optimistic.

Father Petrelli being alive makes no sense and is very soap opera-y, which I personally hate. And what's up with killing off Kensei? First off, they could use him later, so a death for NOTHING but shock value blows. Also, though, I wonder-if Claire could not be killed when Sylar got her power, how come Kensei is killed when Aurthur takes his? I mean, it's the same power, after all, albeit under (slightly) different circumstances. And when you have seen Sylar take abilities in the cool and creepy way that he does it, seeing somebody do the same *&#$ing thing by touching somebody is so lame.

As for Maury, I not only think that he's annoying, but his power is being used for convenience most of all, I think. I agree with NFA about the lameness of the villians thus far.

Seeing Mohinder fall into being evil should be wonderful and interesting, but it's...not. It's really just frustrating and nonsensical. I hope that they are in fact going somewhere good with it and have a good reason for the cocoons, but I seriously doubt either.

I could write more, but it'd be dull and I've written too much already. I still have high hopes for the show, but I really think that it'll have to get better on a summer break or something where the makers can really sit down and map out the show and the direction very well, and do so from a beginning point (not in the middle of a season, namely).

Ant4buffy

insaneinthebasement

Wynter

insaneinthebasement

Ant4buffy

And now its time for Ant's weekly rant about Heroes!
This was the worst episode this season - main reason I'm thinking this is I found myself not caring about people anymore. In Season 2 when Noah was shot I was like "Holy crap - he's dead - can't believe it" and then they brought him back which ruined his death. Yes I like seeing him still in the programme but because they can just bring anyone back from the dead I didn't even care when Matt "died" - when it was revealed that it was in his mind I thought that was a great idea.

Yet again they've killed off a good villain - Maury. Nice to see Veronica again with her electro stuff.
Potentially best part of this episode? Maya has left! Please let her now go to Mexico and be arrested for her crimes and then die in a cell somewhere. Yay!

insaneinthebasement

I dunno, I got a bit of a shock when Matt 'died'. Although, at the same time, I was trying to work out in my head how they were going to bring him back. I was sure they would, but there was no one with healing powers anywhere nearby, so I didn't know how. I was still shocked though. I agree that was a good idea to make it all it Knox' head, injecting people with healing blood could be overdone very quickly I think.

I like Matt, but if we're meant to be seeing the good and bad side of people this season, I wonder when Matt's bad side is going to turn up, he seems so solidly good.

Also, I've probably just forgotten, but does anyone know what the hell they did with Molly? She was living with Matt and Mohinder, then Matt went to Africa and Mohinder went evil. I feel as though I've missed something.

I agree it was good to see Elle back, I think she's a good character, possibly because she's rather nuts and you never know what to expect from her.

NotFadeAway

I agree with Ant. This has to be the worst episode of the season.
A few thoughts:
-Sylar spent the first part of this season trying hard to be 'good', thanks to the support from Mama Petrelli. But this week he meets his biological father for the first time ever and immediately reverts back to his evil ways and turns on his (ahem...) mother? This is so different from what we saw from him earlier in the same episode. It just makes no sense.
-How can Daphne fool Matt? The plan is apparently to make him trust her, but he can READ MINDS. How in the world can you trick someone who can read your mind? That was just stupid.
-I cannot understand killing off Maury. I wasn't too big of a fan of the character, but this week was the first time they made him interesting. So I guess they HAD to kill him (can't have interesting characters, after all...)
-I loved seeing Kristen Bell, but I'm afraid of where they're going with this. If they kill her I'm gonna be sooooooo upset. However, I loved the throwing the glass of water on her. That was the nuts (I'm still rooting for her, though; I don't even know what I'm rooting for her to do, but I'm rooting for her, since it's Kristen Bell Smile

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-Why is Bio-Mom working with HRG? I'm curious why he's not working with The Haitian. I would question why he's not working with Sylar, but I already know: Sylar's too involved with a dumb plotline to work with HRG for right now.
-I've wondered this for a while: why don't people take The Haitian with them whenever they do anything dangerous? I mean, the Dude can block powers. I mean, he should have been taken to the bank (when the villains were making their robbery), he should have been taken to vortex guy's house, and he should be taken to Father Patrelli. Oh well, that would mean that someone on the show is not a complete doofus.
-The Mohinder story makes NO SENSE. I mean, dude went totally whack-job evil, and now we're told he did it to get in Maya's pants...err, help Maya? That makes no sense to me. Also, this week he's acting normal. Just last week he was absolutely crazy. Poor and inconsistent characters are so not the nuts.
-I'd like to have at least one set of characters (like Hiro and Ando, Claire and her moms, or Matt and Daphne) to be able to get excited over, but I don't see it (HRG and Sylar was that, but it looks like that story is over.) I'm getting so frustrated with this season, especially after this week's episode. I still have hope that the show will improve, but I'm starting to doubt it.

Anyway, sorry for rambling so much, but I had a lot to write.

Mullsen

insaneinthebasement

Ant4buffy

No way! I didn't know that.
Oh well - she is still rubbish.

insaneinthebasement

Yeah her name was Caridad and she was in Touched a fair bit, and the start of End Of Days with the bomb.

NotFadeAway

Wynter

TwoToGo-Grave

Wynter

Tonight's episode is the obligatory flashback "filling-in-the-gaps" episode, isn't it? Should be interesting! Especially since I hear there's a significant interaction between Elle and Gabriel, and we see more of the messed-up Petrellis. I watched the spoiler clips, and I have to say, Arthur is an ass.

insaneinthebasement

My thoughts on this week's episode:

These tangled storylines are getting confusing.

Ant4buffy

I agree - tis getting confusing.
Love the ending but the rest of the episode was "meh" as usual. Seriously - when will Heroes get awesome - when it gets the title and I think "Woah - that was one of the best things this episode" then its just getting boring.

NotFadeAway

This week's episode made me soooooooooo mad.
-First off: the time line is WRONG. The writers clearly haven't seen Season One in a while, as the timing of events in this week's episode don't match what we saw in Season One. This was putting me on total life tilt throughout the whole episode. AAARRRRRGGGGGG!
-So, now Meredith was a villain shortly before Season One? They've never given us any reason to believe that, and I don't buy it now. AAARRRRRGGGGGG!
-Sylar didn't meet Kristen Bell just before Season One started. I don't buy it. AAARRRRRGGGGGG!
-Father Petrelli is such a lame, stupid villain. That is all. AAARRRRRGGGGGG!
-I hated seeing the suckiness that is Season Three getting entangled with the greatness that is Season One. AAARRRRRGGGGGG!
-I'm afraid that the show is gone. I hope very, very much that Heroes can reclaim its former greatness, but I doubt it. AAARRRRRGGGGGG!

insaneinthebasement

TwoToGo-Grave

While pretty much everything (mostly Arthur) has annoyed me in S3, nothing can top the lack of respect for the show and for the viewers that they displayed by screwing up the continuity/timeline. I mean, according to this, Sylar (who had been on a killing spree and was already in Los Angeles when the events of the Pilot take place) had JUST begun his killing spree when HRG got into that cab in the Pilot. And the stupidity of the Meridith stuff (I mean, logically speaking, we know that she'd been under the radar before meeting her in S1; she hadn't been an almost %$@#ing agent). And her being responsible for the train car fire made me want to vomit. That was just so horribly stupid. Oh, and the line where Roberts says 'now he's our sworn enemy' didn't just make me want to vomit; it made me want to vomit porcupines. It was just so silly and campy, and not in a good way.
And why does Hiro not stop time in order to check out the area when he sees the dude's head missing? Is being an idiot a requirement of being one of the heroes? Oh well, maybe things will turn around come S4, or I hope so very much, anyway.

Wynter

Nooooooo, Mr. African!Isaac is dead!!! Gutted, he was class Sad

You guys have summed up the rest of my thoughts on last week's episode. Having said that though, I'm looking forward to next week's, from the promo, it looks like Matt meets up with the Petrellis again, wahey! I love it when the heroes come together to kick butt.

And I read in the descriptions for upcoming episodes that the Haitian returns, woo-hoo!

Spoiler:

Ant4buffy

Best episode of the Season last night. Of course this still falls short of how awesome the first Season was but there we go.
I did like the ending with the factions of heroes standing around but of course the "good guys" are a bit cack - future seer, indestructable, flying boy, reading mind man, really fast girl and Peter "look at my lovely hair" Petrelli.
What will happen? Who will survive the coming Apocolypse? Won't they just be brought back to life using Claire's blood? Will Papa Petrelli ever have a different facial expression?
For this and so many other annoying questions and answers stay tuned!

insaneinthebasement

First of all, chicken and waffles? -Ew.
Secondly, did anyone else start laughing at how Elle so conveniently blew Gabriel's shirt off so he could be all half naked while she was training him?

Seriously though, I think it was better than the last few episodes, but there's still such a long way to go before the show can pull itself out of this ridiculous storyline mess. I don't want to give up hope though, we're only at the start of the season.

I think you can give up hope of Arthur ever having any other facial expressions though, it seems very unlikely Smile

Also, I dunno how I feel about Daphne. Did anyone else think she seemed really insincere? I can't tell if it was the actor or the character, but I hope she doesn't start really bugging me.

Wynter

TwoToGo-Grave

As for Matt and Daphne, it seems so annoying to see that. They've know each other, what, five minutes? And she LOVES him? I mentioned to my brother after Angela stated for dumba...err...Arthur that they used to be like that once, 'yes, they did use to be total strangers'. Oh well, that's just a bad line.
Hiro thinking he's ten? Great thing to do when they can't think of a $#*@ing story for him, huh? And Ninth Wonders is no longer being made. Shortly before the guy who made them DIED, he said that the issue he had just written was the LAST one. I guess the writers forgot that?
I hate dumba...err...Arthur. I spend every second that he's on screen wishing he'd die some horrible death. He's not interesting, the actor is stiff, and there's nothing to him as a villain. Oh, and why is Kristen Bell willing to be on that side? Why is Not!Nikki willing to be on that side (and play Nathan like three days after he saved her life)? Oh, that's right...because they need characters to fill for that side and balance it out somewhat, whether they showed good reasoning for why they're on that side. And for a season called 'Villains', the villains sure are dumb this year.

Wynter

The Hiro thing is funny, I'll admit, but it annoys me too, because it's like they can't think of anything better for him to do, so he's used just for comedic value. I hope that wears off soon. I saw a preview clip for the new episode, and...

Spoiler:

Arthur is really rubbish for a villain, I agree. I didn't get why Elle joined that side too!!! Probably to pair her with Sylar, I guess, but it still bugged me.

Here's hoping the next coupla episodes are better.

insaneinthebasement

Ant4buffy

Boring episode this week. I only hope they are building up to something awesome.

I liked the way everyone lost their powers but I'm sure they'll get em back when the eclipse is past total. Speedy girl's legs were interesting. Hiro is getting boring now with his 10 year oldness. Need to move that on. The drawings that "I've got no emotion or acting talents" man drew were a bit cack. On Claire's drawing it looked like she was bleeding from the neck but she got shot in the shoulder. Meh.
Shock horror ending! Will Noah shoot Sylar??
No. No he won't.
I hate being negative about a show I used to love and think was possibly becoming better than Lost. Its just a shame.
What did others think of this weeks ep?

insaneinthebasement

I thought it was a bit of a so-so episode. I didn't hate it, but it certainly wasn't the best. There were some interesting parts.

The worst bits:
1. Mohinder, ugh he is so gross, either turn into a cockroach or whatever the hell or die!
2. The way Matt turns his head on the side and squints when he's reading thoughts, it really really bugs me.
3. Arthur, he is such a bland villain.

The best bits:
1. There wasn't much Arthur.
2. The part when Daphne's dad was all "Why are you turning your head on the side like that?", I laughed so hard!
3. The Haitian!
4. I liked the idea that I felt the episode was trying to get at. That the character's were reverting to what they were in season one. Not just in the sense that they didn't have powers anymore, but their character roles were reverting back.
Claire is the catalyst. She's been invulnarable and painless, so being the catalyst reverts her to being someone who needs protecting, and all the heroes feel they have to rally together to save the cheerleader again. Also she's back to hiding things from her dad.
HRG is kind of being secret agent man again.
Peter is back to relying on Nathan, and Nathan is back to choosing between his family or his career.
Matt is back to thinking only about his love life.
Hiro is back to not speaking English, way more geeky without his Samurai training, and being vaguely annoying.
And Elle and Sylar are dallying with being villains again.

Having said all that, hopefully this is just a brief phase and we don't actually lose 2 season's worth of character. I can't really see the writers allowing that, so I assume they'll all get over that.

Ant4buffy

Bleh. Thats all I think of this weeks episode.

TwoToGo-Grave

Ant4buffy

Yes! He's dead! He's finally dead!! Goodbye Mr I-Have-No-Facial-Expressions!

Best episode by far this season!

That is all.

Wynter

I finally got a chance to watch the finale today, it was freaking awesome!!! I'll have to come back and post more later when I've calmed down a bit.

NotFadeAway

Wynter

First thought off the top of my head - I am SO annoyed/disappointed with Nathan. I was always holding out hope that he was a good guy, and I thought he had redeemable qualities, but now he wants to round up all the people with abilities and chuck them in a facility? So wrong.

ALSO! Since Claire effectively knocked out Sylar, and he was in the Primatech building when it burned down, does that mean he's dead?! :-O

How the hell did Mohinder get out alive when Pinehearst blew up?

And holy crap!! Ando has that power that Hiro saw his future self kill him with! Oh no, I really hope that doesn't mean that turns out to be true, that would be so gutting Sad

Mel

I have just got obsessed with this show......watched from season 1 up until it took its break and I love it.

I am a wee bit pissed that Nathan turned into an ass......hope he comes good though.

greengirl00

Heroes is amazing. Cliffhanger much? At the end it said that it was returning in the new year- does that mean soon as in january, or does it mean months away?

TwoToGo-Grave

Ant4buffy

I've just watched it. Glad that loads of characters died. Although where did Papa Petrelli's body go? When Nathan was sitting in there his body was gone. Maybe they just cleared up. Also won't he just come back to life it the bullet is removed?
I felt that they wrapped everything up in this episode.
It just isn't the same Heroes it used to be.

Wynter

Bryan Fuller, who was one of the main writers/producers for S1, is coming back to write for the rest of S3, so a lot of people are hopeful the show might improve again. It just sucks because he created Pushing Daisies, and it's that cancellation that's allowed him to be able to go back to Heroes.

TwoToGo-Grave

I never saw Pushing Daisies, but I am glad that he's coming back. The show certainly needs something that it's now missing, and I sure hope that Bryan Fuller can deliver whatever that is.

Wynter

I'm glad he's got something to do after his show was cancelled, but the cancellation still makes me sad in the first place! Pushing Daisies was a wee gem of a show, probably one of the most original on TV right now, visually and in terms of plot. It had a certain charm, and it was really amusing. Like Eli Stone, I heard, though I haven't seen that myself - and it was also cancelled. But of course, the audiences don't appreciate the unusual shows so if the viewing figures aren't in, then it's chop time.

Uh, but anyway, Heroes - does anyone know the exact date? And am I right in thinking that it'll be another sort of half-season?

TwoToGo-Grave

Wynter

Ah yeah, I got that now. So basically season 3 is split into two volumes, Villains and Fugitives. That intrigues me, at least, it sounds almost as if our heroes will have to go into hiding if the government is going to be hunting them.

Heroes, Volume 3: Villains **SPOILERS**

Heroes, Volume 3: Villains SPOILERS