There was never a song called I Kissed A Girl sung by a girl before Jill Sobule... I'd be very surprised if that is true
Great and small there are always new variations, even if there are no new basic DNA building blocks under the sun....
But agree totally with your concept. That the lines between rip-off, homage and creative license are fuzzy.
Artists take other peoples foundations and put our own spin on it "make it our own"
Half the pop stars out there probably couldn't write DNA, much less a good song... But for some reason society would rather see a pretty face and cookie cutter voice lip sinc a song rather than hear the original artist's/writer's interpretation. _________________
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject:
Lets just say Ive never heard any song in the popular media, underground or otherwise, and I've listened to alot, that had a girl singing I kissed a girl before Jill Sobule in 1994. And I dont doubt for a second that this new "I Kissed A Girl" song borrows heavily from it, maybe primarily just ripping off the idea of the title, maybe more, but I seriously doubt, myself, that it's just a coincidence...
And god help us anyone to a man who might sing who can't rip off thier shirt and reveal washboard abs.... _________________ "Driveshaft... more like Suckshaft!" - Johnny LOST
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And god help us anyone to a man who might sing who can't rip off thier shirt and reveal washboard abs....
It has to be worse when it comes to women. What society wants in their music (and TV and movies) is just ridiculous and nonsensical, it seems. _________________
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Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject:
It's the men with the washboard abs who are often predatory in the music business and require the female singers on thier labels or tours to be supa sluts.... for thier pleasure and the high drool-count of the audience.. as well as 'inspiring' the girls in the audience to put out like that backstage, too. Charlotte Church had her moment in that bumping and grinding first pop video she did, but at least she cooled back down for her other videos and appearances and then flatly turned down Maxim's offer to pose for them in their, 'but she has a thong or a wrap on its not porn!', celebrity skin pics. But then, a lot of others have, Sarah Michelle Gellar included, but at least Char said no. But then, hey, self-sabotage much? I have that SMG issue of Maxim and used to have on computer file the one for FHM that Alyson Hannigan did... so if were to try to become a professional male singer/artist, I've only shot myself in the foot, even if I dont control the scene. _________________ "Driveshaft... more like Suckshaft!" - Johnny LOST
"I happen to think that Yngwie Malmsteen really can play. I saw some videos when I was in Europe on Sky Channel. I was really impressed." - Frank Zappa
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Yes, I actually heard some talking head say that one of the idol girls (I don't watch the show so I have no idea who they were talking about ) should lose the guitar!!??! What? That burns me! Like seeing the girls body is more important than playing the guitar!?!? Makes me want to barf.
In my genre of music, if you don't "pick" (play an instrument) you pretty much don't "perform" sing. You just don't see people on stage without an instrument. So maybe you can have some insight into my feelings. Someone just standing up there and singing is, well, to me, just lame.
I guess it's about the music though. I generally don't care much for music that is dominantly vocal in nature. _________________
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Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject:
A couple of folks on Whedonesque were calling those of us who declaim this money-stunt by the Kaz and Fran Rubel Kazui as a bad idea irrational because we havent seen a script, director, cast etc even though they themselves admit that not having Joss on board will most likely ruin it. *double-take* huh? We're saying the same thing, without waiting to give them a chance to derail the new movie just like they did the first one. How is that irrational? _________________ "Driveshaft... more like Suckshaft!" - Johnny LOST
"I happen to think that Yngwie Malmsteen really can play. I saw some videos when I was in Europe on Sky Channel. I was really impressed." - Frank Zappa
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Ok I admit it if it comes about I will go to see it and probably enjoy it. If it is any good on its own! For example Bones, I like the books and the show but they are nothing alike ecept for the basics.
I must admit I like basic teen romance it maybe just a bit of fluff that doesnt make me go into a indepth analysis of the characters or has me thinking past walking out of the theater but I like that warm fuzzy feeling they give me.
But on the other hand a Joss movie would be fantastic and I would go and see it a hundred times and wouldnt be able to stop talking about it and my friends and family would likely murder me just to shut me up.
So you see either way I fine with it. _________________
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What do you people think of fan movies? I only have one at the moment (Fluffy the English vampire slayer), but can't the same reasoning (it's not Joss' work) be applied to those? Or is the budget also a major factor (fanbased movies are usually on a very small budget, the new movie is probably big bucks). _________________ Listening to you I get the music
Gazing at you I get the heat
Following you I climb the mountain
I get excitement at your feet!
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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject:
Depends on whether, like with the Buffy and Angel novelisations, and even pre-existing fanfic by people like Marti Noxon who was on the Bronze as a fan before she got brought onto the show in season 2, Joss approves them legally or not. He authorises season 8 as well. The Kazuis do not, and have not, done that. If they could have made money by doing so, they would have already. They, apparently, are exercising the only legal powers over ther franchise that they have, the original movie.
And since Joss wrote the original script/story, he no doubt at least has some say over that as well. We'll see what he does or doesn't do if they keep pressing on with it. _________________ "Driveshaft... more like Suckshaft!" - Johnny LOST
"I happen to think that Yngwie Malmsteen really can play. I saw some videos when I was in Europe on Sky Channel. I was really impressed." - Frank Zappa
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Good point Ild. I enjly the fan stuff.
I guess, for me it's the feeling that the new movie with the exclusion of Joss is all an effort to "grub" money.
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