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ildjarn · Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 480 Location: The Netherlands

The shooting wouldn't have happened if Buffy hadn't humiliated Warren. Would you say Buffy is partially responsible for Tara's death?

I stay with my original conclusion that Warren, and only Warren, is responsible for Tara's death.

(And fate. Don't forget fate).

On the subject of the death of Katrina, while they're not all responsible for her death, they're all responsible for hiding it.

I don't think Andrew is evil, he just has terrible poor judgement, is extremely naive, but those things don't make someone evil. It does lead to evil actions though.
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beagle · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject:

TwoToGo-Grave · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:48 am Post subject:

This sounds like a trio like discussion, which is awesome and fitting, since it's about the trio.
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insaneinthebasement · Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 265 Location: Melbourne

This discussion is good. And tricky, because how far do you go with the responsibility? Andrew? Jonathon? Buffy? Warren's Mum? Warren's ancestors who emigrated to America in the first place? Tara's ancestors maybe? The monkeys who evolved into Warren and Tara? It get's ridiculous, and coming up with a mathematical equation for it all would be too complex.
Personally I am in the team that it's completely Warren's fault.
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beagle · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject:

Yes that would be TMcL-RIP= w
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cardboardy · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:44 am Post subject:

sorry guys im in a mad rush but i just have to say that in my above post im talking more about ethics than physics.

as in the question of the link between the trios sequence of activites and taras death, not every possible connection to the event.

ethically warren was not alone in that backyard, even if he was a lone gunman

loving this discussion, will post more when i surface again
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beagle · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:21 pm Post subject:

Now, I would buy that if they helped him plan it, maybe gave him the gun when they knew what he was going to do with it or brainwashed him or something.
If anything you could say they facilitated him but that makes them responsible for making him a worse person, not killing Tara.

Hey a good sidebar is, is warren even guilty of murder at all? I mean, maybe manslaughter? I mean he didn't mean to kill Tara, that was a accident.
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Sunnydalehigh · Joined: 28 Jan 2006 Posts: 415 Location: Wisconsin

Yes, Warren is guilty of murder. For it to be murder instead of manslaughter, there has to be forethought (planning) and intent, both of which he had for Buffy. Just because he didn't kill his target and accidentally killed someone else doesn't let him off the hook.
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ildjarn · Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 480 Location: The Netherlands

Tara's death is homicide, not murder. There is a legal difference, as far as I know.

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